Alot of places have a tire limit to keep down on some of the mayhem. I don't have room to talk as i assaulted that hill the other weekend rev limiter pinged in 3rd gear. I think a lot of those buggies are sick and i'd love to see them out, from a distance, but i just dont get a lot of the things they do, like mowing down a hill for the hell of it. I like crawling and thats what i intend to do, but i do understand sometimes you gotta give it all you got to make it up something.